Monday, December 28, 2009

How will you counsel a potential suicide/murder person in a chat room? What spiritual advice will you give?

I chatted with an18 year old today from Australia who is suffering from severe depression.....what started off as fun turned into a serious counselling session.


I was taken back on his negative views on life and how severe his depression was. I gave him all the comfort that I can possible give and i told him of my trust in God.....


I found advice coming from me that i have not tapped into for some time now......and it was such a healing process for me as well..


But the most crucial part in our chat was when he told me that he is seriously thinking of going to his school and killing his best friend, his class mates, teachers and then turning the gun on himself...


I was lost for words but i still find the courage and words to try to consol him and give him advice that i think was needed....


I even told him that anytime he needs to chat with me i am always available.....so i added him to my contacts...our 2 hrs chat came to an end and i promised him i will pray for him.


Tell me???How will you counsel a potential suicide/murder person in a chat room? What spiritual advice will you give?
In this situation I would convince him that there is more to life and that there are people who care about him. Usually people who are suicidal think that no one loves or cares about them.





I would also pray for him and tell him that God loves him very much and that God has a plan for his life and wants him to be great.





It is important that when we come into contact with someone in need that we care and concern ourselves with their well being. You do not have to be a psychiatrist to help someone with a problem, especially when God is the answer to all problems.





I think you did the right thing in offering him your contact information. I would have done the same thing.





Sometimes all people need is someone to talk to.





God bless you.How will you counsel a potential suicide/murder person in a chat room? What spiritual advice will you give?
First of all, I am glad that you shared God's love with him- however if he told you that he is going to his school to kill- He needs help- do you have any idea where in Australia he is?- I would hate to hear on the news tonight that another school shooting occurred, Is there a way to find out what school he is talking about- As much as God can use you in this person's life, something needs to be done- pray that he talks to someone at home to stop this from happening.
Man, I remember those days. I was really depressed for as long as I can remember and still am to a certain extent. I have no clue what his situation is so i can just tell you what helped me out. When I lost everything and I was at the absolute rock bottom (when I say everything, I mean EVERYTHING. I lost my family,my job, all of my material possessions, and I was living on the streets, and in Porta toilets when it would rain.) I was praying and asking God for the strength and the help to pull out of that slump I was in and guess what? NOTHING EVER HAPPENED! That was when I came to the reality that the God thing was all a farce and I was duped my whole life. I started to think on my own and I started to see things on my own without that bible or religon filter blocking my mind. When I stopped relying on a stupid crutch like the bible,God and religion, my life became INFINITELY better. When I stopped beating myself up because I was not living like Jeebus wanted me to live. When I stopped living to please the church and that (now laughable) concept of an invisible all knowing God. When I started taking responsibility for myself and for my own actions and not copping out to the whole ';God let's everything happen for a reason so I will just see what the lord has planned for me'; way of thinking, my depression got better seemingly overnight. My life started coming back together and I am happier now than I have ever been. So if I was to talk to him thats what I would tell him. Believe me I have been there in his shoes before. The whole severely depressed and suicidal thing almost got me. However I am living proof that if anyone can get over the depression and suicidal thoughts, that guy has a fighting chance. No matter how many times people told me things will get better , I never thought they would get better for me. You can only tell people that so many times , but if you can pass on experiences and actual proof that things do in fact change and things ALWAYS will get better you have done more than talking and ';praying...(ha-ha)';
URGE him to seek help.
This is serious business. Given the nature of what he said I would contact his ISP and explain the situation. They can find out who it is, etc... and forward the threat to the police.





If you chat wioth him again just keep doing what you have been doing, telling him about God's love. Read Psalm 91 or 103 with him. Try and find out where he lives and then see if you can find a church in that area that could reach out to him.





If you find out where he lives give me a holler-- we have missionary contacts in Australia.
I believe when you convey God's love, mercy and His word to hurting people, it accomplishes what it was meant to do. Many times I have witnessed to hurting people for hours and sometimes felt like I had not reached them. Later when I spoke with them, they would say ';One thing you said that stuck with me was ......'; I would say to myself, I spoke with you for hours and only one thing stuck with you?





The Holy Spirit will witness to them for hours and days after you have spoken with them. Keep praying for them. There is a good possibility no one has ever prayed with them or for them before.
I don't counsel them. I don't pretend to be an expert, and I don't like to play with other people's lives.





What I do tell them is to seek help from someone who knows what they are talking about.





I usually give them a 1-800 number to a suicide hotline. So they can speak to someone who is trained on how to deal with this stuff. Because I sure am not.
Tell everyone this:








Have UnConditional Love and Peace by accomplishing this:





Create Your Relationship with Our Creator.
There is no professional suicide hotline that would endorse the use of religion as a counseling method.





What do you do if you've just spent five minutes offering the hope of your god, and the person doesn't believe in it? You've just increased his stress level. He may feel all the more isolated or outcast because of his difference.





Religion is a BAD topic for suicide intervention
Wow! That is wonderful he was able to work with you! I always believe that God puts people togeather for good reasons and you no doubt fulfilled God's purpose in this one! It's hard to know what to say, I guess that's where prayer is so important to have God lead us in what to say and do.
if he is a threat to the pubic, the authorities must be notified.


this young man is perplexed %26amp; demonized. he needs to have these evil spirits cast out of him. if he is willing to release their control, they can be cast out. he needs to find an apostolic church nearby or go to a service there %26amp; it can be done.





i know it sounds wierd, but it is scriptural.


i have witnessed many evil spirits cast out of people.


afterwards, this young man needs to be filled with God's Spirit or he will be re-filled with evil again, but worse than before.


i have seen this happen too.
sweetheart


with the greatest respect and i know you mean well


but you cant counsel people like this


what you can and should do is provide them with proper advice and point them in the right direction


doctors, therapists , advice sites etc





I have had exprience with suicidal people on the internet many times


and it isnt our place to try and talk them round... infact it can be quite dangerous and you may be left with a feeling of guilt should it go wrong


if you feel he is also a threat to others , then let the authorities know

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